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A baby is an alimentary canal with a loud voice at one end and no

responsibility at the other.


A baby is God's opinion that the world should go on.

        -- Carl Sandburg


A child of five could understand this!  Fetch me a child of five.


A kid'll eat the middle of an Oreo, eventually.


A little kid went up to Santa and asked him, "Santa, you know when I'm bad

right?"  And Santa says, "Yes, I do."  The little kid then asks, "And you

know when I'm sleeping?" To which Santa replies, "Every minute." So the

little kid then says, "Well, if you know when I'm bad and when I'm good,

then how come you don't know what I want for Christmas?"


    A young married couple had their first child.  Their original pride

and joy slowly turned to concern however, for after a couple of years the

child had never uttered any form of speech.  They hired the best speech

therapists, doctors, psychiatrists, all to no avail.  The child simply refused

to speak.  One morning when the child was five, while the husband was reading

the paper, and the wife was feeding the dog, the little kid looks up from

his bowl and said, "My cereal's cold."

    The couple is stunned.  The man, in tears, confronts his son.  "Son,

after all these years, why have you waited so long to say something?".

    Shrugs the kid, "Everything's been okay 'til now".


About the only thing we have left that actually discriminates in favor of

the plain people is the stork.


Adam and Eve had many advantages, but the principal one was, that they escaped


        -- Mark Twain, "Pudd'nhead Wilson's Calendar"


Adopted kids are such a pain -- you have to teach them how to look like you ...

        -- Gilda Radner


    After watching an extremely attractive maternity-ward patient

earnestly thumbing her way through a telephone directory for several

minutes, a hospital orderly finally asked if he could be of some help.

    "No, thanks," smiled the young mother, "I'm just looking for a

name for my baby."

    "But the hospital supplies a special booklet that lists hundreds

of first names and their meanings," said the orderly.

    "That won't help," said the woman, "my baby already has a first name."


And he climbed with the lad up the Eiffelberg Tower.  "This," cried the Mayor,

"is your town's darkest hour!  The time for all Whos who have blood that is red

to come to the aid of their country!" he said.  "We've GOT to make noises in

greater amounts!  So, open your mouth, lad!  For every voice counts!"  Thus he

spoke as he climbed.  When they got to the top, the lad cleared his throat and

he shouted out, "YOPP!"

    And that Yopp...  That one last small, extra Yopp put it over!

Finally, at last!  From the speck on that clover their voices were heard!

They rang out clear and clean.  And they elephant smiled.  "Do you see what

I mean?" They've proved they ARE persons, no matter how small.  And their

whole world was saved by the smallest of All!"

    "How true!  Yes, how true," said the big kangaroo.  "And, from now

on, you know what I'm planning to do?  From now on, I'm going to protect

them with you!"  And the young kangaroo in her pouch said, "ME TOO!  From

the sun in the summer.  From rain when it's fall-ish, I'm going to protect

them.  No matter how small-ish!"

        -- Dr. Seuss "Horton Hears a Who"


Any father who thinks he's all important should remind himself that this

country honors fathers only one day a year while pickles get a whole week.


Anyone who uses the phrase "easy as taking candy from a baby" has never

tried taking candy from a baby.

        -- Robin Hood


Are you a parent?  Do you sometimes find yourself unsure as to what to

say in those awkward situations?  Worry no more...

    Are you sure you're telling the truth?  Think hard.

    Does it make you happy to know you're sending me to an early grave?

    If all your friends jumped off the cliff, would you jump too?

    Do you feel bad?  How do you think I feel?

    Aren't you ashamed of yourself?

    Don't you know any better?

    How could you be so stupid?

    If that's the worst pain you'll ever feel, you should be thankful.

    You can't fool me.  I know what you're thinking.

    If you can't say anything nice, say nothing at all.


Are you a parent?  Do you sometimes find yourself unsure as to what to

say in those awkward situations?  Worry no more...

    Do as I say, not as I do.

    Do me a favour and don't tell me about it.  I don't want to know.

    What did you do *this* time?

    If it didn't taste bad, it wouldn't be good for you.

    When I was your age...

    I won't love you if you keep doing that.

    Think of all the starving children in India.

    If there's one thing I hate, it's a liar.

    I'm going to kill you.

    Way to go, clumsy.

    If you don't like it, you can lump it.


Are you a parent?  Do you sometimes find yourself unsure as to what to

say in those awkward situations?  Worry no more...

    Go away.  You bother me.

    Why?   Because life is unfair.

    That's a nice drawing.  What is it?

    Children should be seen and not heard.

    You'll be the death of me.

    You'll understand when you're older.


    Wipe that smile off your face.

    I don't believe you.

    How many times have I told you to be careful?

    Just because.


Are you a parent?  Do you sometimes find yourself unsure as to what to

say in those awkward situations?  Worry no more...

    Good children always obey.

    Quit acting so childish.

    Boys don't cry.

    If you keep making faces, someday it'll freeze that way.

    Why do you have to know so much?

    This hurts me more than it hurts you.

    Why?  Because I'm bigger than you.

    Well, you've ruined everything.  Now are you happy?

    Oh, grow up.

    I'm only doing this because I love you.


Are you a parent?  Do you sometimes find yourself unsure as to what to

say in those awkward situations?  Worry no more...

    When are you going to grow up?

    I'm only doing this for your own good.

    Why are you crying?  Stop crying, or I'll give you something to

        cry about.

    What's wrong with you?

    Someday you'll thank me for this.

    You'd lose your head if it weren't attached.

    Don't you have any sense at all?

    If you keep sucking your thumb, it'll fall off.

    Why?  Because I said so.

    I hope you have a kid just like yourself.


Are you a parent?  Do you sometimes find yourself unsure as to what to

say in those awkward situations?  Worry no more...

    You wouldn't understand.

    You ask too many questions.

    In order to be a man, you have to learn to follow orders.

    That's for me to know and you to find out.

    Don't let those bullies push you around.  Go in there and stick

        up for yourself.

    You're acting too big for your britches.

    Well, you broke it.  Now are you satisfied?

    Wait till your father gets home.

    Bored?  If you're bored, I've got some chores for you.

    Shape up or ship out.


Article the Third:

    Where a crime of the kidneys has been committed, the accused should

    enjoy the right to a speedy diaper change.  Public announcements and

    guided tours of the aforementioned are not necessary.

Article the Fourth:

    The decision to eat strained lamb or not should be with the "feedee"

    and not the "feeder".  Blowing the strained lamb into the feeder's

    face should be accepted as an opinion, not as a declaration of war.

Article the Fifth:

    Babies should enjoy the freedom to vocalize, whether it be in church,

    a public meeting place, during a movie, or after hours when the

    lights are out.  They have not yet learned that joy and laughter have

    to last a lifetime and must be conserved.

        -- Erma Bombeck, "A Baby's Bill of Rights"


Beat your son every day; you may not know why, but he will.


Because we don't think about future generations, they will never forget us.

        -- Henrik Tikkanen


Billy:    Mom, you know that vase you said was handed down from

    generation to generation?

Mom:    Yes?

Billy:    Well, this generation dropped it.


Breast Feeding should not be attempted by fathers with hairy chests,

since they can make the baby sneeze and give it wind.

        -- Mike Harding, "The Armchair Anarchist's Almanac"


    Catching his children with their hands in the new, still wet, patio,

the father spanked them.  His wife asked, "Don't you love your children?"

"In the abstract, yes, but not in the concrete."


Catproof is an oxymoron, childproof nearly so.


Children are like cats, they can tell when you don't like them.  That's

when they come over and violate your body space.


Children are natural mimics who act like their parents despite every

effort to teach them good manners.


Children are unpredictable.  You never know what inconsistency they're

going to catch you in next.

        -- Franklin P. Jones


Children begin by loving their parents.  After a time they judge them.

Rarely, if ever, do they forgive them.

        -- Oscar Wilde


Children seldom misquote you.  In fact, they usually repeat word for

word what you shouldn't have said.


Children's talent to endure stems from their ignorance of alternatives.

        -- Maya Angelou, "I Know Why the Caged Bird Sings"


Cleaning your house while your kids are still growing is like shoveling

the walk before it stops snowing.

        -- Phyllis Diller

There is no need to do any housework at all.  After the first four years

the dirt doesn't get any worse.

        -- Quentin Crisp


Delusions are often functional. A mother's opinions about her children's

beauty, intelligence, goodness, et cetera ad nauseam, keep her from drowning

them at birth.


Do not handicap your children by making their lives easy.

        -- Robert Heinlein


Fertility is hereditary.  If your parents didn't have any children,

neither will you.


For adult education nothing beats children.


For children with short attention spans: boomerangs that don't come back.



    "And, and, and, and, but, but, but, but!"

        -- Mrs. Janice Markowsky, April 8, 1965



    "Johnny, if you fall and break your leg, don't come running to me!"

        -- Mrs. Emily Barstow, June 16, 1954


Get Revenge!  Live long enough to be a problem for your children!


            -- Gifts for Children --

This is easy.  You never have to figure out what to get for children,

because they will tell you exactly what they want.  They spend months and

months researching these kinds of things by watching Saturday- morning

cartoon-show advertisements.  Make sure you get your children exactly what

they ask for, even if you disapprove of their choices.  If your child thinks

he wants Murderous Bob, the Doll with the Face You Can Rip Right Off, you'd

better get it.  You may be worried that it might help to encourage your

child's antisocial tendencies, but believe me, you have not seen antisocial

tendencies until you've seen a child who is convinced that he or she did not

get the right gift.

        -- Dave Barry, "Christmas Shopping: A Survivor's Guide"


Give a small boy a hammer and he will find that everything he encounters

needs pounding.


Give your child mental blocks for Christmas.


Having children is like having a bowling alley installed in your brain.

        -- Martin Mull


How sharper than a serpent's tooth is a sister's "See?"

        -- Linus Van Pelt


"Humpf!" Humpfed a voice! "For almost two days you've run wild and insisted on

chatting with persons who've never existed.  Such carryings-on in our peaceable

jungle!  We've had quite enough of you bellowing bungle!  And I'm here to

state," snapped the big kangaroo, "That your silly nonsensical game is all

through!"  And the young kangaroo in her pouch said, "Me, too!"

    "With the help of the Wickersham Brothers and dozens of Wickersham

Uncles and Wickersham Cousins and Wickersham In-Laws, whose help I've engaged,

You're going to be roped!  And you're going to be caged!  And, as for your dust

speck...  Hah! That we shall boil in a hot steaming kettle of Beezle-Nut oil!"

        -- Dr. Seuss "Horton Hears a Who"


I BET WHEN NEANDERTHAL KIDS would make a snowman, someone would always

end up saying, "Don't forget the thick heavy brows."  Then they would get

embarrassed because they remembered they had the big hunky brows too, and

they'd get mad and eat the snowman.

        -- Jack Handley, The New Mexican, 1988.


I called my parents the other night, but I forgot about the time difference.

They're still living in the fifties.

        -- Strange de Jim


    I did some heavy research so as to be prepared for "Mommy, why is

the sky blue?"

    HE asked me about black holes in space.

    (There's a hole *where*?)

    I boned up to be ready for, "Why is the grass green?"

    HE wanted to discuss nature's food chains.

    (Well, let's see, there's ShopRite, Pathmark...)

    I talked about Choo-Choo trains.

    HE talked internal combustion engines.

    (The INTERNAL COMBUSTION ENGINE said, "I think I can, I think I can.")

    I was delighted with the video game craze, thinking we could compete

as equals.

    HE described the complexities of the microchips required to create

the graphics.

    Then puberty struck.  Ah, adolescence.

    HE said, "Mom, I just don't understand women."


        -- Betty LiBrizzi, "The Care and Feeding of a Gifted Child"


I hate babies.  They're so human.

        -- H. H. Munro


I know what "custody" [of the children] means.  "Get even."  That's all

custody means.  Get even with your old lady.

        -- Lenny Bruce


I love children.  Especially when they cry -- for then someone takes them away.

        -- Nancy Mitford


I opened the drawer of my little desk and a single letter fell out, a

letter from my mother, written in pencil, one of her last, with unfinished

words and an implicit sense of her departure.  It's so curious: one can

resist tears and "behave" very well in the hardest hours of grief.  But

then someone makes you a friendly sign behind a window... or one notices

that a flower that was in bud only yesterday has suddenly blossomed... or

a letter slips from a drawer... and everything collapses.

        -- Letters From Colette


I tell ya, I was an ugly kid.  I was so ugly that my dad kept the kid's

picture that came with the wallet he bought.

        -- Rodney Dangerfield


I told my kids, "Someday, you'll have kids of your own."  One of them said,

"So will you."

        -- Rodney Dangerfield


I used to think I was a child; now I think I am an adult -- not because

I no longer do childish things, but because those I call adults are no

more mature than I am.


I was born because it was a habit in those days, people didn't know

anything else ... I was not a Child Prodigy, because a Child Prodigy is

a child who knows as much when it is a child as it does when it grows up.

        -- Will Rogers


If a child annoys you, quiet him by brushing his hair.  If this doesn't

work, use the other side of the brush on the other end of the child.


If parents would only realize how they bore their children.

        -- G. B. Shaw


If pregnancy were a book they would cut the last two chapters.

        -- Nora Ephron, "Heartburn"


If the very old will remember, the very young will listen.

        -- Chief Dan George


If you have never been hated by your child, you have never been a parent.

        -- Bette Davis


If your mother knew what you're doing, she'd probably hang her head and cry.


Insanity is hereditary.  You get it from your kids.


It is better to remain childless than to father an orphan.


It is no wonder that people are so horrible when they start life as children.

        -- Kingsley Amis


It is so soon that I am done for, I wonder what I was begun for.

        -- Epitaph, Cheltenham Churchyard


It must have been some unmarried fool that said "A child can ask questions

that a wise man cannot answer"; because, in any decent house, a brat that

starts asking questions is promptly packed off to bed.

        -- Arthur Binstead


It now costs more to amuse a child than it once did to educate his father.


It's never too late to have a happy childhood.


Kids always brighten up a house; mostly by leaving the lights on.


Kids have *_____never* taken guidance from their parents.  If you could

travel back in time and observe the original primate family in the

original tree, you would see the primate parents yelling at the primate

teenager for sitting around and sulking all day instead of hunting for

grubs and berries like dad primate.  Then you'd see the primate

teenager stomp up to his branch and slam the leaves.

        -- Dave Barry, "Kids Today: They Don't Know Dum Diddly Do"


Lies!  All lies!  You're all lying against my boys!

        -- Ma Barker


Life does not begin at the moment of conception or the moment of birth.

It begins when the kids leave home and the dog dies.


Life is a sexually transmitted disease with 100% mortality.


Life is like a diaper -- short and loaded.


Literature is mostly about having sex and not much about having children.

Life is the other way around.

        -- David Lodge, "The British Museum is Falling Down"


Maturity is only a short break in adolescence.

        -- Jules Feiffer


May you have many beautiful and obedient daughters.


May you have many handsome and obedient sons.


MEMORIES OF MY FAMILY MEETINGS still are a source of strength to me.  I

remember we'd all get into the car -- I forget what kind it was -- and

drive and drive.

I'm not sure where we'd go, but I think there were some bees there. The

smell of something was strong in the air as we played whatever sport we

played.  I remember a bigger, older guy whom we called "Dad."  We'd eat

some stuff or not and then I think we went home.

I guess some things never leave you.

        -- Jack Handley, The New Mexican, 1988.


Microwaves frizz your heir.


My boy is a mean kid.  I came home the other day and saw him taping worms

to the sidewalk, he sits there and watches the birds get hernias.  Well,

only last Christmas I gave him a B-B gun and he gave me a sweatshirt with

a bulls-eye on the back.

I told my kids, "Someday, you'll have kids of your own."  One of them

said, "So will you."

        -- Rodney Dangerfield


My family history begins with me, but yours ends with you.

        -- Iphicrates


My mother loved children -- she would have given anything if I had been one.

        -- Groucho Marx


My mother once said to me, "Elwood," (she always called me Elwood)

"Elwood, in this world you must be oh so smart or oh so pleasant."

For years I tried smart.  I recommend pleasant.

        -- Elwood P. Dowde, "Harvey"


My mother wants grandchildren, so I said, "Mom, go for it!"

        -- Sue Murphy


My mother was a test tube; my father was a knife.

        -- Friday


My parents went to Niagara Falls and all I got was this crummy life.


My ritual differs slightly.  What I do, first thing [in the morning], is I

hop into the shower stall.  Then I hop right back out, because when I hopped

in I landed barefoot right on top of See Threepio, a little plastic robot

character from "Star Wars" whom my son, Robert, likes to pull the legs off

of while he showers.  Then I hop right back into the stall because our dog,

Earnest, who has been alone in the basement all night building up powerful

dog emotions, has come bounding and quivering into the bathroom and wants

to greet me with 60 or 70 thousand playful nips, any one of which -- bear

in mind that I am naked and, without my contact lenses, essentially blind

-- could result in the kind of injury where you have to learn a whole new

part if you want to sing the "Messiah," if you get my drift.  Then I hop

right back out, because Robert, with that uncanny sixth sense some children

have -- you cannot teach it; they either have it or they don't -- has chosen

exactly that moment to flush one of the toilets.  Perhaps several of them.

        -- Dave Barry


Nature makes boys and girls lovely to look upon so they can be

tolerated until they acquire some sense.

        -- William Phelps


Never have children, only grandchildren.

        -- Gore Vidal


Never lend your car to anyone to whom you have given birth.

        -- Erma Bombeck


Never raise your hand to your children -- it leaves your midsection


        -- Robert Orben


Never trust a child farther than you can throw it.


No house is childproofed unless the little darlings are in straitjackets.


No matter how old a mother is, she watches her middle-aged children for

signs of improvement.

        -- Florida Scott-Maxwell


Nobody suffers the pain of birth or the anguish of loving a child in order

for presidents to make wars, for governments to feed on the substance of

their people, for insurance companies to cheat the young and rob the old.

        -- Lewis Lapham


    On this morning in August when I was 13, my mother sent us out pick

tomatoes.  Back in April I'd have killed for a fresh tomato, but in August

they are no more rare or wonderful than rocks.  So I picked up one and threw

it at a crab apple tree, where it made a good *splat*, and then threw a tomato

at my brother.  He whipped one back at me.  We ducked down by the vines,

heaving tomatoes at each other.  My sister, who was a good person, said,

"You're going to get it."  She bent over and kept on picking.

    What a target!  She was 17, a girl with big hips, and bending over,

she looked like the side of a barn.

    I picked up a tomato so big it sat on the ground.  It looked like it

had sat there a week.  The underside was brown, small white worms lived in it,

and it was very juicy.  I stood up and took aim, and went into the windup,

when my mother at the kitchen window called my name in a sharp voice.  I had

to decide quickly.  I decided.

    A rotten Big Boy hitting the target is a memorable sound, like a fat

man doing a belly-flop.  With a whoop and a yell the tomatoee came after

faster than I knew she could run, and grabbed my shirt and was about to brain

me when Mother called her name in a sharp voice.  And my sister, who was a

good person, obeyed and let go -- and burst into tears.  I guess she knew that

the pleasure of obedience is pretty thin compared with the pleasure of hearing

a rotten tomato hit someone in the rear end.

        -- Garrison Keillor, "Lake Wobegon Days"


One father is more than a hundred schoolmasters.

        -- George Herbert


One of the disadvantages of having children is that they eventually get old

enough to give you presents they make at school.

        -- Robert Byrne


Only adults have difficulty with childproof caps.


Out of the mouths of babes does often come cereal.


Parents often talk about the younger generation as if they didn't have

much of anything to do with it.


Please, Mother!  I'd rather do it myself!


Reinhart was never his mother's favorite -- and he was an only child.

        -- Thomas Berger


Remember that as a teenager you are in the last stage of your life when

you will be happy to hear that the phone is for you.

        -- Fran Lebowitz, "Social Studies"


Snow and adolescence are the only problems that disappear if you ignore

them long enough.


Somewhere on this globe, every ten seconds, there is a woman giving birth

to a child.  She must be found and stopped.

        -- Sam Levenson


Teach children to be polite and courteous in the home, and, when they grow up,

they won't be able to edge a car onto a freeway.


Test-tube babies shouldn't throw stones.


That all men should be brothers is the dream of people who have no brothers.

        -- Charles Chincholles, "Pensees de tout le monde"


The average income of the modern teenager is about 2 a.m.


    The courtroom was pregnant (pun intended) with anxious silence as the

judge solemnly considered his verdict in the paternity suit before him.

Suddenly, he reached into the folds of his robes, drew out a cigar and

ceremoniously handed it to the defendant.

    "Congratulations!" declaimed the jurist.  "You have just become a



The denunciation of the young is a necessary part of the hygiene of older

people, and greatly assists in the circulation of the blood.

        -- Logan Pearsall Smith


The fact that boys are allowed to exist at all is evidence of a remarkable

Christian forbearance among men.

        -- Ambrose Bierce


The first half of our lives is ruined by our parents and the second half

by our children.

        -- Clarence Darrow


The full impact of parenthood doesn't hit you until you multiply the

number of your kids by thirty-two teeth.


The future is a myth created by insurance salesmen and high school counselors.


The good die young -- because they see it's no use living if you've got

to be good.

        -- John Barrymore


The idea is to die young as late as possible.

        -- Ashley Montague


The modern child will answer you back before you've said anything.

        -- Laurence J. Peter


"The only real way to look younger is not to be born so soon."

        -- Charles Schulz, "Things I've Had to Learn Over and

           Over and Over"


The problem with the gene pool is that there is no lifeguard.


The real reason large families benefit society is because at least

a few of the children in the world shouldn't be raised by beginners.


The years of peak mental activity are undoubtedly between the ages of four

and eighteen.  At four we know all the questions, at eighteen all the answers.


"There was a boy called Eustace Clarence Scrubb, and he almost deserved it."

        -- C. S. Lewis, "The Chronicles of Narnia"


There's no point in being grown up if you can't be childish sometimes.

        -- Dr. Who


There's nothing wrong with teenagers that reasoning with them won't aggravate.


Toddlers are the stormtroopers of the Lord of Entropy.


Troubles are like babies; they only grow by nursing.


    Two parent drops spent months teaching their son how to be part of the

ocean.  After months of training, the father drop commented to the mother drop,

"We've taught our boy everything we know, he's fit to be tide."


We are all born charming, fresh and spontaneous and must be civilized

before we are fit to participate in society.

        -- Judith Martin, "Miss Manners' Guide to Excruciatingly

           Correct Behaviour"


We are the people our parents warned us about.


What really shapes and conditions and makes us is somebody only a few of

us ever have the courage to face: and that is the child you once were,

long before formal education ever got its claws into you -- that

impatient, all-demanding child who wants love and power and can't get

enough of either and who goes on raging and weeping in your spirit till

at last your eyes are closed and all the fools say, "Doesn't he look

peaceful?" It is those pent-up, craving children who make all the wars

and all the horrors and all the art and all the beauty and discovery in

life, because they are trying to achieve what lay beyond their grasp

before they were five years old.

        -- Robertson Davies, "The Rebel Angels"


What's done to children, they will do to society.


When childhood dies, its corpses are called adults.

        -- Brian Aldiss


When I was 16, I thought there was no hope for my father.  By the time I was

20, he had made great improvement.


When you were born, a big chance was taken for you.


Why do they call it baby-SITTING when all you do is run after them?


Why not have an old-fashioned Christmas for your family this year? Just

picture the scene in your living room on Christmas morning as your children

open their old-fashioned presents.

Your 11-year-old son: "What the heck is this?"

You:    "A spinning top!  You spin it around, and then eventually it falls

down.  What fun!  Ha, ha!"

Son:    "Is this a joke?  Jason Thompson's parents got him a computer with

two disk drives and 128 kilobytes of random-access memory, and I get this

cretin TOP?"

Your 8-year-old daughter: "You think that's bad?  Look at this."

You:    "It's figgy pudding!  What a treat!"

Daughter: "It looks like goat barf."

        -- Dave Barry, "Simple, Homespun Gifts"


You can learn many things from children.  How much patience you have,

for instance.

        -- Franklin P. Jones


"You can't expect a mother to be with a small child all the time," Margaret

Mead once remarked, with her usual good sense, but in 1978 she shocked

feminists by snapping that women don't really have children to put them in

day care twelve hours a day, either.

        -- Caroline Bird, "The Two Paycheck Marriage"


You can't hug a child with nuclear arms.


Your responsibility as a parent is not as great as you might imagine.  You

need not supply the world with the next conqueror of disease or major motion

picture star.  If your child simply grows up to be someone who does not use

the word "collectible" as a noun, you can consider yourself an unqualified


        -- Fran Lebowitz, "Social Studies"


Youth is such a wonderful thing.  What a crime to waste it on children.

        -- George Bernard Shaw


Youth is the trustee of posterity.


Youth is when you blame all your troubles on your parents; maturity is

when you learn that everything is the fault of the younger generation.


Youth.  It's a wonder that anyone ever outgrows it.



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